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Why Do They Have to Hate Me? by AnScathMarcach Why Do They Have to Hate Me? by AnScathMarcach
I can't be the only one who feels personally offended when someone says they hate something I happen to love, can I?

Lately it's been G3 My Little Pony. I got into My Little Pony DURING G3, so obviously I loved it, and I still do. I can't stand how the new male fanbase doesn't understand that the past generations were made for little girls, so OF COURSE they're going to be girly! Not only that, but they practically worship G4 SO much, that they treat everything else like a toddler does to vegetables, and effectively convince the rest of the world that anything that's not G4 is garbage. They won't even watch it with an open mind (See EVERY Brony review of ANY G3 episode EVER).

Now let's talk about Rainbow Dash. During G3, Rainbow Dash was one of my favorite characters. Why? Because (despite what everyone claims about G3's characters) she was unique. She stood out. She had a unique design, an accent, and even a personality. I kind of saw her as motherly. This was a character who obviously had some effort put into her. This was a character that someone put time into. Yet everyone thinks she's disgusting because she's "Not my Rainbow Dash!".  That's another thing that bothers me. Any character that doesn't fit the bronies' claim that all the G3 characters are the same, they are brushed off as annoying.

Besides not wanting to be associated with Cloppers, this is why I stopped calling myself a Brony. If being a brony means I have to be a bigoted asshole and automatically hate the past generations because "G4 IS TEH ONLY!!1!", I want no part of it.

*Rant Over*

G3 Was Not That Bad Guys by AnScathMarcachG3 Had Better Toys Stamp by AnScathMarcach

'HEY! Leave Her Alone!' by AnScathMarcach
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Tuxedo-Guy2 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  New member Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, what's up with the Bronies and G3? Yes, G3 is a saccharine show and what's with this "no conflict" thing? I watched nearly all of G3, save for a few core 7 episodes, and almost all of them (Dancing in the Clouds is an exception) had a conflict. Yes, the conflicts were... very simple, but there was one! Dancing in the Clouds IS a stupid episode because it's just padding, with no conflict.

Okay, on to Rainbow Dash. Yes, she is different, but her character is not bad. She has good parts, like her maturity and more intelligent personality, flaws, like her obsession over her looks, and strangeness, like her obsession over rainbows. She, Pinkie, Minty, Kimono, and Rarity are well defined characters, until the advent of Core 7. Oh yeah, and Bronies, Rainbow didn't get her fashionista personalities until very late into G3.

Is G3 the best, no (that would be either G1 or G4), but is it the worst, (no, that's G3.5). Please, thoroughly analyze G3 before you go hating on it.
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AnScathMarcach Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, regarding conflict, have you seen A Very Minty Christmas? That one actually had a pretty deep conflict and a great story. That's why it's my favorite. I think most bronies get "No conflict" confused with "No villains" or "No fighting".
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Tuxedo-Guy2 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  New member Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, I've seen that episode, and I actually like it a lot more than a majority of FIM. That episode made Minty one of my top 3 favorite ponies of every Generation (2nd to Surprise). That episode, and Runaway Rainbow, were my favorites because of their characters and story. You really don't need fighting or villains to have a great story. G3 is one of those few shows that can have a great story with no antagonist, as far as I'm concerned.

A problem with G3, however, is that the stories are stretched too thin. Some of the hour movies can fall under 22-minutes, and some of the 22-minute episodes can fall under seven-eleven minutes. Some editing can fix the pacing.

As for why it's better than most of G4; Season 1 had nearly NO Progress going on. It began with a bang with a great villain and a magical girls theme that looked like it could rival the top cartoons, but it was followed with 24 episodes of no story progression and NOTHING from that pilot. Yes, there was character progression, but that's it. Season 2 was really where it was picking up, but it was still dreadfully slow. Seasons 3 and 4 was really where the show was on it's tracks and moving at it's proper pacing.
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AnScathMarcach Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I think (at least in the beginning) that FiM was trying to set up a show where no matter where you started, with the exception of the pilots and finales, you didn't have to worry about missing any continuity, and that's why there was no progression. It is a good idea, but it does bother me as well that after the premiers, all the characters acted like it never even happened.
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Tuxedo-Guy2 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  New member Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Okay, what I actually meant was that Seasons 1 and 2 were extremely hollow compared to the subsequent seasons and other shows. I hate the Slice-of-life genre for being extremely boring, in my eyes, but it can work if you have another element going on, like a magical girl theme. This show should not be only slice-of-life, and season 4 probably noted this. Have Slice of Life with the magical girl and a monster-of-the-week theme; you can get character development done and have more entertainment than just ripping off Looney Tunes Comedy.

Really, most of Season 1 felt like it was comprised of Looney tunes comedy, internet memes, and character development with otherwise boring stories. I know other Bronies like it, but not me; I almost turned of FIM for this reason. Season 1 was probably hollowed because of Hasbro and the E/I thing, as a whole Luna seasonal arc was cut out and the Sea Ponies were left out... for some reason.

And yes, DHX NEEDS to kick it up many notches with their story telling; they need to stop playing it safe and start getting ambitious and risky. These ponies just faced a crisis and found a possible solving thing; THIS IS IMPORTANT, not just something like a toy these ponies just found in a store. Whatever is introduced needs to be relevant and active in the story arc; otherwise, don't even bother mentioning it. And there needs to be better villains and more conflicts that aren't related to villains; the best villain, Tirek, was just a prissy remake of his G1 self, who was ACTUALLY threatening.

G4 is far from the god-send that these Bronies are calling it, and DHX needs to do a lot better with their stories and entertainment value. I sure hope this alleged delay of Season 5 is worth it. Come on DHX, increase the scale of the story to more than just 12 episodes of importance and 12 episodes of filler, increase the scale of your world, increase the scale and amount of conflicts, increase everything!
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AnScathMarcach Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I just put up a stamp based on the G3 and Conflict thing:
No Conflict Stamp by AnScathMarcach
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Tuxedo-Guy2 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  New member Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh... okay... that's an interesting stamp...
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RockmanGurl Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I mean G4 is no masterpiece either. Sorry if the last comment confused you!
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RockmanGurl Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Indeed. It's not like G4, while taking some liberties I didn't think I'd see in a show, it's no masterpiece either.
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FannyLudovica Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014
I just don't get why do so many Bronies hate her..She's so adorable! :3
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RPCarlyShay Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014   Artist
*Pets G3 Rainbow Dash's head* Not all of us hate you, and consider yourself lucky I'm not a brony/pegasister anyways ^^; :3
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tmn88 Featured By Owner May 24, 2014
Don't give too much thought to those Bronies, they just on the 'its cool to hate anything before g4' bandwagon.  All of My Little Pony is girly including G4 and there is nothing wrong with that; people need to get rid of the whole girly=bad idea.
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MJNSEIFER Featured By Owner Edited Aug 25, 2014
The silly thing about some bronies having a problem with "girly" things or viewing it as bad, is that it goes against what the creator of FIM was trying to say, which was you can make something completely girly, and it doesn't have to be viewed as a bad thing (which is what the previous generations also managed to do as well).

It's a shame they don't all get that, the worst part is that some bronies completely miss the point whenever something "cool" happened (including when Lauren was in control of the show) the point of it from a writer's perspective was "see this, girl's shows can be cool." but I have seen bronies take this to be proof that FIM isn't really a girl's show because of this (completely ignoring the fact the some girls actually like action and villains and whatever) - it's actually embarrassing, but thankfully we're not all like that.

(sorry, that ended up being quite long).
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Tuxedo-Guy2 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  New member Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, I watched a lot of girly things and I found them nice; even things as girly as G3... that sounded wrong. I only care about story and characters, and so far, most had good stories and characters that can support it. Said shows include 1980's Strawberry Shortcake and Pretty Cure, though I plan to expand horizons a bit more.

I ended up reviewing it and posting them on my DA account; I plan to do G3 and G4 MLP later.
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newsuperdannyzx Featured By Owner May 16, 2014
G3 Rainbow Dash Reminds me lot of Rarity and maybe she is like long lost cousin of Rarity.
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AnScathMarcach Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I wouldn't doubt she had something to do with the inspiration of Rarity's personality.
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newsuperdannyzx Featured By Owner May 17, 2014
True
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newsuperdannyzx Featured By Owner May 16, 2014
Well to be fair i always thought she is by of how she said Daring or be fancy one like Rarity.
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MoonPieDumpling Featured By Owner May 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Rainbow Dash was my favorite G3 pony.  I never understood why people seem to like hating on the older generations so much, like you said, they weren't designed to be interesting for college aged males, they're for little girls, so even if they don't like them it's dumb to be hating on them.
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cargirl9 Featured By Owner May 1, 2014
I grew up with G1 and G3 and i stil love them all
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MCD0NALDS Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, I absolutely love this Rainbow Dash <3
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CookietheMouse Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2014
I always hated it when hate is brought upon the G3 ponies. I find them really cute, and personally, I prefer G3 over G4.

*hugs G3 Rainbow Dash*
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HyvePL Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
I grew up with G1 and G3. Hate on previous generations makes me keeping to don't consider myself as a brony. I just like some characters of new generation but dosen't really care about it.
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DrawingGirl4 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
i used USED to hate G3 Dash simply because i THOUGHT she was girly annoying and a mary sue. But after i gave her a chance i actually loved her and her personality, i mean personally from watching gen 3 the only pony that seems ''overly girly''is Pinkie Pie. But just because its girly dose NOT make it bad! Oh and please don't criticize the fanbase and bronies because a lot of them tend to bash the franchise. There are actually a lot that i know how respect,like and are interested in past generations. For one i know a brony who is my friend named chris and he actually does not hate any of the past gens. Well all expect for G3.5 and Newborn cuties but other then that he likes most of them And sometimes he may joke about G3 but its never mean of harsh. Besides i knew a girl on this website that actually showed people WHO WERE IN FACT BRONIES A VERY MINTY CHRISTMAS! And ended up liking them!And i actually know a brony who also loved a very minty christmas and loved Mintys personality.  Personally the brony fanbase is a great fanbase and you should'nt close yourself out because a lot of them do this to past generations. Because ''There is NO SUCH THING as a BAD FANBASE There is however such thing as BAD FANS. And i can tell you from experience because one time i found this guy while surfing on youtube called ''Mysterious Mr Enter'' Who gave G3 a terrible review. Not only that but he put the generation in the ''Animated Atrocities'' section of his review.. Okay you can dislike G3 you can hate it and call it every mean name in the book but DONT YOU EVER CALL IT IN ANIMATED ATROCITY! I remember i cryed for a few days over what he said about G3. I especially hated the fact that he called ''Minty'''my favorite charcter and the other G3 ponies ''Stupid''. He even said''We don't hate it because its ''Girly'' we hate it because the characters are stupid and something else which i forget. I wanted to punch him after he said that. I actually watched G3 multiple times and i have seen no sign of stupidity in any of the charters! Sure they were naive but definitely not STUPID. Which is why like you i hate bronies who are like that and what do i do? I just ignore them and pay attention to the nice bronies. Thats what i do.
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GySGtGibbs Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Why did you view G3 Dashie as a Mary Sue?
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DrawingGirl4 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
She just seemed little too perfect and beautiful with not to many flaws which kind made me think she was a mary sue.
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AnScathMarcach Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Mysterious Mr. Enter is exactly who inspired this.
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DrawingGirl4 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Wow that makes a lot of sense. I for one hate the guy but since i watch mlp and mlp reviewers he always pops up on ''The Recommended Videos and Channels''. WHY YOUTUBE WHY??? And the worst part of it all is that the reason in why he hates it are nonsensical and invalid. I for one hate G3.5 but i don't bash it. Plus G3.5 actually inspired two great episodes in MLP FIM. 
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AnScathMarcach Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I actually subscribed to him because I was interested in the Animated Atrocities series, obviously until G3 came into the picture. That's when it became personal...
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DrawingGirl4 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
My reaction after watching his g3 ATV ''in a rarity g4 voice : IT IS ON!
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Tuxedo-Guy2 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  New member Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I read he gave up on G3... understandable; what else can you talk about with this show? It was too bad for me, really, he was getting into the better (and worse) parts of G3 and G3.5

He did make me have a closer inspection on shows and inspired me to make my own reviews, which I have on my DA.
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DrawingGirl4 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
Personally I see some of his points but with me their are some good episodes, some okay episodes and bad episodes. 
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Tuxedo-Guy2 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  New member Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah... what could have been... I would have loved to see his thoughts on the, what I call, "advertisement shorts" of g3.5; seriously, it's just a stupid story built around selling toys. G3 and the start of G3.5 IS NOT, or WAS NOT, like that; it used the products, but didn't center the episode around it... as far as I know, from the episodes I've seen.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014
G3 may have been the least of the cartoons, but it was still good fun for what it was.

And while most of them didn't have a chance to develop their personalities much, ones like Minty did, and it's ironic the G3 pony with the most development was the one NOT given a place in G4.

And yeah, G3 RD acted like Rarity, SHE CAME FIRST, and yet fans of the current gen hate her. It feels . . .  petty to me.
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pinkiepie20 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014
I dont hate you G3 Dash *gives her a hug*
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SonicTheDashie Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014
I don't hate you, i realy like you. alot. *hug G4 rainbow dash* Huggle! 
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newsuperdannyzx Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
it G3 Rainbow dash
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SonicTheDashie Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
Oh, i thought it was G4 but i didn't know that was G3, but thanks anyway.
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newsuperdannyzx Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2014
You're welcome 
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Firehooves Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
Thank you for drawing this!  It breaks my heart the way bronies treat this and the other generations! I think Venus Terzo was an amazing Rainbow Dash in G3, and I love her character's personality! I think I'm one of the fewfanfic writers who writes G3 stories and treats the characters with respect!
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Magicponixtutu Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
(Hugs dash) i dont hate you
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Magicponixtutu Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
G3 wasnt bad to me, the only mlp generation i ever hated was new born cuties and that was short lived.  G3 and 3.5 had many touching moments that make me laught and cry, tales was my second favorite generation and g1 is as good in a few ways as fim
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GySGtGibbs Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with you 100%.

Rainbow Dash was my favorite in G3 My Little Pony. I never saw her as motherly, I saw her as regal, a noble. And I loved Venus Terzo's upper-class European aristocrat accent. XD

When I was a brony, I was heavily harassed by the other bronies for loving G3, and that is partially why I left the fandom.

I am now just a My Little Pony Fan.
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Dragonlord-Daegen Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
agree 100%

ive alwase liked every version of mlp (the only exeption was the newborns,but thats only because they didint even attempt to make shure they finnished it)

most bronies are just pissed because they think that the current RD is suposubly based off of G3 RD...when eny real brony whould know the character is taken from firefly (g1)

ok...so generation 3 was a bit infintile,but seeing as the target demigraphic was girls 4-7 that doesent exactly come as the biggest shock.

but it was still entertaining and amusing,even for adults....like MJNSEIFER just stated,FIM is a colaberation of some of the finest points found in each variation of the cartoon

love and friendship-G3
adventuristic plot (and sometimes even villans)- G1
realistic human cultier and point of view -MLP tales

as brighteyes and moki (mlp tales) once said:
"there are some diferences,but many more things that are the same"
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MJNSEIFER Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014
Wow, that was long, but hopefully it will make you feel a little better. :)
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MJNSEIFER Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014
I am a brony, and most likely always will be, but I not only sympathize with you, I also completely agree, because I am a fan of all generations, especially G3.

Even though I joined the fandom for G4* I checked out the other shows, and I adore every single one of them as though I grew up with them, and as it now stands G3 and G4* are my favorite generations, and I love them both so much, I keep changing my mind on which is the best one.

While I do slightly understand why male bronies would hate on pre-FIM to the extent they do, at first (because they are insecure about the fact they suddenly like ponies after calling them girly all these years, and now need to differentiate their show from the rest of MLP) it gets old fast, and the fact of the matter is, that these bronies (and there are sadly more of these kind of bronies than I'd like to admit) are immature, and the only reason they haven't grown up is because they simply don't want to.

The thing that most of these bronies miss about G4 is that not only was it created by a fan of MLP, but it also followed the formula of previous generations very closely* and most of the stuff that bronies love so much about FIM was already present in previous generations (which is why Lauren included it in the first place). G3 is actually very similar to G4 in the places where it matters, such as the distinct personalities of ponies, the heart-warming moments between friendships, and so on, and so forth, and the few bronies who actually bother to watch G3 with an open mind know that.

Does G3 have flaws? Yes, sadly it does, but so does G4, and in both cases, the good things about both generation far out weight the flaws, and the really silly thing is most of the flaws about G3 that these kind of bronies moan about, are either more apparent in G3.5 (not hating on that generation) or simply aren't true, and is just something they've assumed because it's not G4. If anything the main flaw of G3 was the same flaw that all MLPs had - which is that there was always the feeling that they were only telling half the story at times** this is mostly because they are children's shows, but children are naturally curious when they are interested in something, and as they grow into adults, their curiosity grows into creativity. So for me, even the main flaw of G3 isn't a bad thing, as I just look at all the half explained things, and unanswered questions as fanfiction fuel.

The really sad thing is, the Hater Bronies don't even bother to correctly study and analyze what they hate (ironically if they did, they'd most likely not hate it). Take Rainbow Dash herself here; you would not believe how many times G3 Rainbow Dash has been criticized by Hater Bronies because she's "fashion obsessed" when in reality G3 Rainbow Dash has never once mentioned fashion in the entire G3 show. They don't even know what it is that they hate about her, as they don't even know the character at all (note: the G3.5 Rainbow Dash liked fashion, so it's very likely that they confused the two). You are correct; G3 Rainbow Dash is an excellent character, and very likable (I really love her "darling" accent), and you are right about her personality; it is obvious to anyone who really watches G3 that G3 Rainbow Dash was supposed to be a kind of mother figure or older sister figure to the other ponies - she was never the one dimensional fashion fanatic that most bronies assume she was.

Also, if G4 Rainbow Dash was real I have every faith that she'd not only be okay with G3 Rainbow Dash, but she'd also put a stop to the bronies hating on her.

You can always tell when a brony hasn't even bothered to watch G3, mostly because if they did they'd be fine with it, as it is pretty much the same concept of G4 (not the storyline, but the general idea of MLP), and that they say that the ponies are all the same, when the majority of the ones that are given the spotlight have very distinct personalities, and G3 basically keeps the format of character types that MLP has always kept since G1 (it was solidified in MLP Tales more, but existed earlier).

So yeah, I am a brony, but I am not going to be what my fandom has become, and will always show my support for G3 as it deserves every bit as much support and fan appreciation that G4 does, and I will always love it, because G3 is quite simply, an awesome show.
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GySGtGibbs Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
My friend, if I knew how to draw, I'd make a picture that would show the Bronies exactly how I think G4 RD would react to G3 Rainbow's tears.
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MJNSEIFER Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
I know my reply is late (thanks to my main computer, of course), but I would totally do the same thing if I could draw (which is why it's awesome that AnScathMarcach* uploaded G4 Rainbow Dash defending G3 Rainbow Dash) as well as just generally uploading nice G3/G4 (and others) drawing of the ponies just hanging out and being friends, because that's what they would be. :)

It can suck to have all the ideas, and not be able to draw them right? Trust me, I know.
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AnScathMarcach Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I've totally been wanting to do that! I could make a whole series of the G4 ponies defending their G3 counterparts (providing they have one)

Maybe for Twilight and Applejack, I'll do their G1 counterparts. G1 isn't torn apart nearly as much as G3, but it is to some degree.
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GySGtGibbs Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:) :) :)

Well, if you do make such artwork, could you inform me please?
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